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If you haven’t seen Part I and Part II of this series, you should go back and read them. As you recall, the shotgun is best used as a short-range weapon that allows you to take some shortcuts in marksmanship through its spread pattern. Therefore, a wider pattern is an asset, not a liability. Here are the four final loads I patterned with my Stakeout at 3, 5, 7 and 10 yards. Load 9: Hornady Black 8 Pellet #00 Buck, 1600 FPS This round featured a uniform, tight pattern. Load 10: Olin/Winchester Military Grade 9 Pellet #00 Buck, 1450 FPS This round had a moderately wide pattern. It also had a brutal muzzle flash when shot, especially with the ported Stakeout. The brightness was intense enough to distort my vision while shooting indoors. Load 11: Hornady Critical Defense 8 Pellet #00 Buckshot, 1600 FPS Although not as extreme as the Olin, this round also produced a noticeably bright muzzle flash when shot from the Stakeout. Its pattern was rather tight. Load 12: Federal Premium Personal Defense 34 Pellet #4 Buck,... Read more →


A great deal has changed since the 1990s. On the discussion of sights, back then the disruptive technology was ghost ring sights. Today, we are putting red dot sights on handguns at a dramatic rate. Do they belong on shotguns? The first time I saw a red dot on a shotgun was on the cover of one of the last HK International Training Division catalogs. They’d just done a switch to the FABARM shotgun from the venerable Benelli and there was a FABARM with an Aimpoint in the stack. Nobody had ever done that. The FABARM eventually died a quiet death, but the concept of a red dot on a shotgun did not. Oh, I know…you will get the same arguments we got when we began doing this with handguns. “It’s a close range weapon and you don’t need sights”. “It will slow you down”. The red dot does not change anything about how you use the handgun in an elevator, but boy does it help your hit potential when outside the close confines where sights will again be needed.... Read more →


I am old enough to remember my first duty shotgun at LASD. It was an Ithaca 12 gauge. The stock had been cut down as had the barrel. It was handy and it was fast owing to its balance and its well-worn action. And I recall the old deputy that trained us in skipping buckshot off the concrete range at the Wayside training range. He relayed some tall tales about taking rioters out at the knees during the first iteration of the LA Riots held in Watts. I later learned that what I initially thought were exaggerations, were pure fact and the deputy had personal experience dropping about ten rioters that way. In those days, the spread of the pattern and lack of reach of the shotgun was seen as a huge asset by the law men that carried it into urban harm's way. Sometime after that, the shotgun fell out of favor. It began when the Gunsite crew began trying to turn the weapon into a rifle, and tighten the pattern to the point where any benefit of the... Read more →


On the WarriorTalk forum, a number of people have asked the following question: What ammunition works best in the Stakeout? But before we talk about the ideal ammo for the Stakeout, we first need to define the role of the Stakeout and of shotguns in general. Gabe Suarez sums it up the best in his book Fighting with Shotguns: “A shotgun is a short-range power tool that allows you to take some shortcuts with the fundamentals of marksmanship, and with shot placement, to a degree, and still bring your man down through sheer volume of damage via mass of the shot pattern and area impact,” Gabe writes. “It is a baseball bat to the face, not a stiletto to the eye.” In short, we don’t want a super-tight pattern that negates the benefits of a shotgun. If I want a really tight pattern, I’ll just grab my rifle. In my opinion, a wide pattern is even more important for a Stakeout shotgun. Since it doesn’t have a stock, this isn’t a gun you’re going to shoot at 50 yards; it... Read more →


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What was once fringe, seems to become mainstream. We have seen it time and again. So here is a fringe idea. Since we use RMRs on our handguns almost exclusively...why not also on these? One area where we noticed room for improvement was in alignment of the weapon. Not having a "stock" per se, the uniform placement of the cheek, and thus the eye, was missing. Easy button - add the parallax free RMR. Bring up the weapon, look through the optic, and wherever the dot it, that is where you will hit. Points - 1). The closer the optic is to the eye (within reason) the greater field of view you get and the easier to find the dot. The opposite is also true. Put the dot far out there and finding it becomes more difficult. 2). The mount we used was of our own design and will be released for sale shortly. We used JB Weld on this one and it has held up well. Final production will use mounting screws and a gunsmith installation suggested. The mount... Read more →


America loves rifles. Hell, we have been at war now for - what - sixteen years?! Fourteen years ago, when many of the Youtube heroes were still waiting for their balls to drop, you couldn't have rifles. Then in 2004, President Bush allowed the 1994 Assault Rifle Ban to sunset. Suddenly, the floodgates opened and all those evil weapons we could not previously own were almost growing on trees. And since the rifle industry has always been better at marketing than the Fuddish shotgun industry, the shotgun began to be ignored, and the rifle - notably the M4 series - was favored. But all weapons are tools, and tools have specific jobs they are designed for. You may love that new chrome plated craftsman hammer you got last Father's Day, but if you need to turn a screw, rather than drive a nail, it will not be the right tool regardless of your affection for it. So...context. So...reality. Recently we had a discussion on warriortalk about the use of shotguns for "riot survival". Good and timely topic in light of... Read more →


On my forum a question was recently asked: What role does the shotgun have during civil unrest? My main battle weapon for years was a shotgun. And I admit, I had my love affairs with the AK and the M4. And at home, the weapon by my bed is a Glock PDW with a 30 round stick and a can. The reason for the last is that I still have kids living with us and I want discretion, silence, and surgical accuracy. But I am rethinking the best weapon for a riot type event. It very well may be the shotgun. Here are some points to consider - 1). Riot events involve either getting the fuck out, or hunkering down. If the former is your option, then range is not an issue is it? Only if defending a stronghold will that be an issue. What are the odds of one versus the other? If defending a stronghold, then the rifle has a great deal of advantage until things get inside. Then the battle goes to the shotgun. So if we... Read more →